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What is a Jim
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I feel left outta the loop guys help a /b/ro
Top Comment: a random who gets overly friendly with top players despite not knowing them
Is 'Jim' not a real name? Is anyone actually just named Jim or are they ALL secretly James?
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Jim Carrey was the first one I found out about. Next was Jimmy Cliffe. Then Iggy Pop who I'd heard called 'Jim' or 'Jimmy' by some.
Jimmy Carter. Jim Pattison. Jim Henson. The famous Jims I know are actually James. (I looked them up while making this post to check.)
Pardon my cultural ignorance, I don't know anyone called Jim where I'm from. My question is: is Jim NOT actually a name on its own? Should I just assume anyone called Jim is actually a James? Are there any people out there who are just Jim, like their birth certificate would just be Jim [lastname,] or not really?
I found out before that Jim is a nickname for James but I thought it could also be a full name by itself. But all of the Jims turn out to be James.
(I also don't get why Jim with an 'i' is the nickname of James with an 'a' but yeah.)
Top Comment: There are almost certainly folks actually legally named Jim out there - nicknames have a tendency to become names in their own right. My parents' legal, birth certificate names are Frank and Peg, not Francis and Margaret.
Jim Halpert, a honest discussion
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The Office plays in my house pretty much everyday. Comedy Central and the amount of time they spend airing the show. You can get thru the whole series in a few weeks. The more we watch the show in my house. One glaring fact seems to emerge more and more. First pointed out by my wife. Jim Halpert is kind of an unlikable asshole. He's completely reckless with the hearts of the girls he datesl, except for Pam. But it can be argued he was reckless with her in the final season. While funny and clearly meant to illicit humor from the audience. His pranks, "pranks" on Dwight are usually unprovoked and its a fair argument to make that he's a bully. He has a terrible attitude and walks around acting like he's better than everyone and his job is beneath him.
Here's a few examples of when Jim was a asshole.
- Inviting his girlfriend to his after work function (the booze cruise) only to dump her during said function. What makes this even more terrible is the fact he couldn't wait till the got back to shore. Nope, he had to do it while still out sailing. Leaving his poor ex with no where to escape.
- Another instance when he didn't get his way to go on a sales call by himself. He let Michael fall into a koi pond. Completely embarrassing himself.
- He and Karen go to NYC so they both can interview for a open position at corporate. Jim imterviews first during his interview the subject of "big picture" is brought up. This makes Jim realize his big picture includes Pam. So after his interview is over he makes the choice to break up with Karen and immediately head back to Scranton. Stranding Karen in the city. Also, the timeline seems to indicate he left her in NYC before breaking up with her. Which leads to the conclusion he dumped her over the phone or even worse, possibly by text.
- This doesn't make him a asshole but really indicates what an insecure man he is. When they're all at a bar to watch the new Dunder Mifflin commercial the bartender comments on how much he likes the commercial the office collectively made. Its mentioned that Pam created the animation to which the bartender asks her if she ever ridden on a motorcycle. This prompts Jim tio put his arm around Pam like a insecure middle schooler. Another time Jim let Roy get in his head. Jim reacts by hopping in his car to drive to NYC. I believe if the doc crew wasn't with him and filming he would've made the trip. He only turns around out of worry of how he'll come off in the finished documentary.
The are a few off the top of my head. Can anyone else remember any other instances Jim was a asshole?
Top Comment: Jim was always there for Dwight when he had a case of the sads. Dwight, literally feloniously shot Stanley with a tranquilizer dart. Big picture guys.
Why do people hate Jim so much?
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So I’ve noticed people on Reddit seem to hate Jim. Often saying he’s a sociopathic bully and nitpicking on everything he does and frankly, I think it’s hypocritical.
I think because Jim is seen as the nice guy people are so much less lenient with him than the others that are more caricature-like. So maybe Jim isn’t the best person in the world but you’ve gotta be insane to think he’s the worst person in the office. If he’s not your favourite character that’s one thing, but he’s just not the worst person morally, and I’m sick of hearing it. The others have all done so so so much worse, but because those are things that realistically, no one would ever do it’s not taken seriously. (Which makes sense it’s comedy, but the same should be applied to Jim.)
Another thing that I’m sick of hearing is that if Jim wasn’t attractive, he would be seen as creepy. I think people miss the point here, everything is circumstantial. If Jim was less attractive, and Pam reacted differently to his advances, he would’ve backed off. That’s the thing about him, he’s got enough awareness to understand when he’s really hurting someone and when he’s just being a bit annoying like with Dwight. People just scrutinize everything he does in ways that don’t make sense, but then the other characters are just funny.
And again I want to make it clear, you do not have to like Jim, not at all. But to say he’s done the worst stuff compared to the others is delusional.
Top Comment: I think your analysis is right. Jim and Pam were written to be the most normal/well-adjusted ones so people take their actions very literally in a way they don’t with the other characters.
York police chief (Jim MacSween) defends advice to 'comply' with intruders after father killed protecting family
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But Jim MacSween understands why his advice not to take matters into your own hands when confronted by violent criminals angered some people
York Regional Police Chief Jim MacSween released a lengthy statement Friday defending his comments that victims should “comply” with demands from violent intruders while saying understands the public backlash to his advice.
The anger was in response to the murder of 46-year-old Abdul Aleem Farooqi, a father gunned down while confronting home invaders while protecting his family inside his Vaughan residence on Sunday.
In his statement, MacSween said he recognized his remarks left many people angry when he suggested residents should not take matters into their own hands when confronted by violent criminals.
“When discussing Mr. Farooqi’s murder and a number of other violent crimes we experienced in York Region over the past two weeks, some took exception to a piece of guidance I provided to citizens in the event they are faced with an armed intruder at their home,” MacSween wrote.
“Following these crimes and in light of broader, nationwide conversations about citizens’ personal safety — I understand this reaction. I understand the feelings of pain and anger boiling to the surface in our community. And I understand why people feel the need to fight back, and are dissatisfied with any direction to do otherwise.”
MacSween said the advice he gave earlier had nothing to do with politics or concerns about using force against perpetrators of home invasions, suggesting it was one specific “tactic” to stay safe and preserve lives.
“When it comes to defending property, material items can be replaced — but lives cannot,” he said.
MacSween said calling 911 and not engaging with armed intruders is the best piece of advice he could give, but he understands that those situations are “dynamic, chaotic, and difficult to assess in the moment.”
“Ultimately, a citizen should do what they deem necessary to preserve their own safety, and the safety of their loved ones,” he wrote.
The Chief also clarified earlier reports of the response time by officers to Farooqi’s murder following a 911 call, explaining officers “were en route within 40 seconds of receiving the call and arrived on scene within 4.5 minutes.”
MacSween also reiterated his “deepest sympathies” to Farooqi’s family, loved ones and the greater community impacted by his death.
“My heart goes out to all grappling with the violent murder of a husband, son, father, brother, friend and leader,” he said.
On Wednesday, MacSween held a news conference to discuss recent violent incidents that also included a woman abducted and a man wounded by gunfire during another home invasion in Markham, and two people killed in a Richmond Hill house fire which investigators now believe was deliberately set.
“In the unlikely event that you find yourself a victim of a home invasion, we are urging citizens not take matters into their own hands,” MacSween said at that media briefing.
“While we don’t want homeowners to feel powerless, we urge you to call 911 and do everything you can to keep yourself and loved ones safe until police arrive and be the best witness possible.”
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When asked by a reporter if that advice conflicted with what Premier Doug Ford said should be the right of victims to defend themselves and take action, the chief brushed it aside.
“The Premier can make his own statement and his own mind up about that,” MacSween said.
Until the law changes, he said police officers will follow what is on the books.
“But as it stands, we know the best defence for most people is to comply, as you’ve just heard,” he said. “Safety recommendations will allow for those that are victimizing members in the community to leave and not harm anyone.”
— with files from Chris Doucette
Top Comment: What a loser this guy is. I can’t see how his employees have any confidence in him to continue leading! He’ll be wiping the egg off his chin for awhile.. can you imagine the embarrassment his family is facing after a comment like that?
WARMINGTON: Top cop (Police Chief Jim MacSween) wants public to 'comply' with thugs during home invasions
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Saying his region is still "safe," tone deaf York Police Chief Jim MacSween wants people under attack call 911, hide and wait for the cops
Just “hide and comply” and maybe the armed intruders invading your house will not hurt you or your family.
That’s York Regional Police Chief Jim MacSween’s recommendation to the public following the gutless murder of 46-year-old dad, Abdul Aleem Farooqi.
Easy for him to say. It wasn’t MacSween who had masked bandits pointing a gun at his four-year-old daughter.
“In the unlikely event that you find yourself a victim of a home invasion, we are urging citizens not take matters into their own hands,” the chief said at a news conference Wednesday. “While we don’t want homeowners to feel powerless, we urge you to call 911 and do everything you can to keep yourself and loved ones safe until police arrive and be the best witness possible.”
But when will police arrive?
York Regional Police have not yet commented with how long it took to respond to this Vaughan distress call Sunday? While unconfirmed, people close to this family say there was at least a 13-minute wait for police to arrive and that the original call was made before the killers had even breached the home.
Wait for police?
In addition to a criminal investigation, there should be a coroner’s inquest into Farooqi’s slaying so every part can be reviewed.
The chief seemed tone deaf while addressing a disgusted community, shaken that a wonderful father of four, respected businessman and much-loved member of Vaughan’s Muslim community could be gunned down at 1 a.m. inside his own home by bandits looking for valuables. No matter how it’s spun, this was not this dad’s fault.
It’s all on the bad guys and a system that does not punish them.
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Top Comment: Calling 911 is a painful process of waiting to be answered. Police response times questionable at best! So as law abiding citizens we’re expected to allow ourselves to be powerless victims??? The criminals have better protection under the criminal code!!! Me personally, I’d rather be judged by 12 instead of being carried by 6 !!! Canada’s system truly sucks and we can only hope that our politicians wake up and change legislation to allow us to stand our ground to defend what’s ours without worrying about being charged for defending our families. Shame on the police chief!!!
What’s the best example of Jim being the absolute worst?
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Top Comment: the way he treated Katy
Was the end of Jim & Pam's story good?
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The topic of the Athlead story being bad has been discussed plenty, but I was thinking about the overall resolution to Jim & Pam's story in The Office and how strange it is thinking it over.
One of the main themes of the show I took away was the idea of appreciating the mundane aspects of our lives. I think Jim & Pam's story was especially about this more than any other character in the show. I always thought it would make sense that Jim ultimately found passion for his life not in his job, but in his relationship and family. They DID address this and it WAS a factor in his character, but I find it weird that the ultimate, final resolution to their arc and their happiness was getting to leave Dunder Mifflin for an unrealistic entrepreneurship dream job working with celebrity athletes.
Like I mentioned above, this arc has already been torn apart, but I'd go as far as to say it undermined the point of their characters and how they grew to appreciate the small things. What do you all think?
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Jim is kind of a douche
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Jim comes across as a cool, laid back guy in the show just enjoying the chaos and doing his part in spreading it. But when you actually stop to think about it, he's kind of a terrible co-worker and person.
Besides the obvious issues of him tormenting his co-workers (in many cases deservedly so), he's just weirdly unapproachable and clearly gives zero fucks about the others besides Pam - he puts like 0 effort in cultivating any sort of friendship with the co-workers he's not interested in boning, even when they make an effort to approach him and be friendly, and instead acts like he's above them and exudes condescension. He either patronizes or bullies people (see: Dwight, Michael, Andy, Gabe, Kevin) or pretends they don't exist (Meredith, Angela, Oscar etc.) unless he needs a favor from them (Phyllis, Stanley). He is completely unremarkable, isn't particularly bright, and goofs off nearly all day, and only has a strong sales record past the mid point of the series because he'd been there for like 10 years.
Dude would be completely insufferable in any real life context, but since as viewers we don't have to work with him day to day, it's easy to forget his nasty attitude and focus only on the funny pranks. Funnily enough, on my 5th rewatch I kinda just hate the guy even though I thought he was great on the first watch.
Top Comment: There’s the smudgeness
Why everyone hates Jim?
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SPOILERS... .. Whats up with everyone hating Jim? I think he is only one who actualy shares anything 😂 You remember the voice on the radio, he asked donna about it and she told him he is stupid and to not tell anyone about it. Then he told his wife and she sayd he was wrong and did not tell him she can see dead children. Then he told boyd about it and he was looking at him like hes crazy and did nothing about it, only one that listened was randall actualy. So we come to the phonecall and him not telling boyd when he already told him about the radio and was ignored, so obviously why da fuk would he say to him about that to. Actualy he kinda told him or asked him if things are getting worse and boyd is just staring and saying nothing wtf 😂 And him thinking its an experiment, I mean I would think that to if someone was calling me and I dont know anybody in the town, how can he be sure that none of them are lying? I think he is the most logical one and wants to find a way out, and he is also my favorite so thats why Im defending my boy 🤣🤣 Its sad when your fav character gets trash so much 😐 ... What are your toughts?
Top Comment: I actually like Jim. I just wish they gave him a little more to do. I've just never been a fan of Jim's anti-Victor attitude despite the fact that I can also acknowledge that oftentimes Victor does come off as a bit odd. But he came through for Jimbo's family more than once.
Jim is a bit of a wuss
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He never defended Michael during S02E01 The Dundies when the Chads were throwing food at him.
He relied on Dwight to defend him in S03E19 The Negotiation when Roy attacked.
He never truly stood up to Todd Packer, aside from silly stringing him in S02E10 Christmas Party after Packer was passed out.
Am I wrong here?
Top Comment: Jim is my boy but he's terrible with confrontation. It's definitely his character flaw. It's his Achilles heel throughout the show.
Jim is NOT fun to watch in later seasons
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I think I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this. But this just has to get out of my heart. I don't like watching Jim in the later seasons of the show. I don't know how to explain it but he has that neighbor aunt who doesn't return the ball when it falls in her backyard. In the earlier seasons there was this playful energy around him. Be it the relationship with Pam or the pranks with Dwight. But idk how we lost our Jim along the way.
Top Comment: Real original post Toby. Go back to the annex